Condution Goals vs My Requirements

[azzamsa]

Hi.

Thank you for creating Condution. In this ticket, I want to elaborate on my requirements then compare them to Condution goals. If both match, I would like to follow the development. Otherwise, I need to look into other solutions.

Background

I am a heavy user of KOrganizer in 2014, but I migrate to Org-mode in 2016. Due to its customizability via elisp. KOrganizer also pulls a huge amount of dependencies into my system, which I don't like.

I use org-mode for todo, journaling, and taking a note. Two points that I would like to highlight here are todo and journaling.

I took note of every important activity each day in the Org document called succes.org. It is something like Julia Evans's version of his brags document

It looks like something like this:

- 2021
  - 01 January 2021
    - learn Javascript for the first time :learn:
  - ...

This way, at some point, when I want to know what are my achievements in January 2021, I can take a look into that success document. Each item has specific tags, so it is searchable and filterable.

I have been doing this from 2016 on and off. But the problem is that now I want to visualize it. After using SimpleMobileTools/Simple-Calendar. I can get insight into how productive I am in particular weeks/months just by seeing the monthly view.

Imagine having the visualization above compared to reading through text-based bullet points.

Now, I have put some important agenda into Simple-Calendar to get a glimpse of my activity. I keep only the most important agendas. Since It is a mobile app with a small screen. Many of them would clutter the look and heavy to load. The todo-task feature is currently missing too.

Requirements

To summarize my requirements, it is only one line:

• A calendar app that has a todo feature
• Open source (I want to use it for years to come)

Other things such CalDav sync is a bonus point for me.

I have spent a day researching other popular apps. My current results are:

• https://github.com/laurent22/joplin, 26.9k

  It looks like geared towards taking app rather than Calendar&Todo app

• https://github.com/johannesjo/super-productivity, 4.5k

  Don't have a calendar thing.

• https://github.com/alainm23/planner, 1.7k

  Don't have a calendar thing.

• https://github.com/tasks/tasks, 1.9k

  Don't have a calendar thing.

• https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/California

  Discontinue

• https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution

  Looks like an email client with a Calendar.

• https://github.com/SimpleMobileTools/Simple-Calendar, 2.7k

• https://github.com/nextcloud/calendar

  Both are what I am currently using, and use another app for todo.

• cal.com

  Geared towards booking calendar.

Other:

• https://github.com/Etar-Group/Etar-Calendar, 1.2k
• https://github.com/nextcloud/tasks/, 388

In the end, Both KOrganizer and Kalendar that close to my requirements.

• https://apps.kde.org/korganizer/
• https://invent.kde.org/pim/kalendar

Unfortunately, Installing them pull huge "unneccesary" dependencies for me:

Kalendar/Korganizer dependencies

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Do you want to continue? [Y/n]

I don't want to install 198 additional apps just to run a Calendar app. I love to have a clean system.

Possibilities

If some of the requirements above match the Conduit goals. I would be very happy. But indeed this is not my project. The outcome will be the owner and community votes.

I have tried the Online version of Conduit. The missing things from my requirement are:

• Ability to add non-todo items in the calendar (event)
• Dim (don't hide) completed todo item
• Searchable event/todo with custom filter
• Accessible from mobile (most of the time I am on mobile)

If this project had different goals:

• I might be forking the project and learning some more Javascript (Hopefully).
• Or running the Kalendar via Qemu
• Or just keep using Simple-Calendar + Nextcloud calendar (backup) + other todo apps.
• Or looking back into https://github.com/kiwanami/emacs-calfw

Why

I shared my story here hoping that maybe some parts of it could inspire the project's future.

The app also looks promising, the language used doesn't have a huge barrier to fork and improve.

Open the ticked here instead of Discord discussion to make it discoverable for other googlers.

Thank you for Conduit.

[azzamsa]

I ended up using a combination of Simple-Calendar + NextClould + Tasks.org

Thank you Condution.